tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23662827.post6653965232307955592..comments2024-01-13T23:00:20.853+00:00Comments on MAN THE BARRICADES: Christianity Under Attack-Again!Gregghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10323165429887622931noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23662827.post-53146500131401164212012-03-03T17:27:27.187+00:002012-03-03T17:27:27.187+00:00Things such as these are foretold in the Bible; a ...Things such as these are foretold in the Bible; a book that has been under attack for hundreds of years. We are living in the last "of" the last days; and things like this will get worse unfortunately.<br /><br /> There is a group of individuals who control the world and want the Bible, Christianity, freedoms of the people (like praying in public) and any talk of the most vile sins being commited today( and condemned) gone! <br /><br />In some countries today, condemning homosexuality, race mixing, and other things are hate speech and or hate crimes!; this is how far our society has gone down the tubes. There IS a hell, unfortunately the many millions who are there now didn't realize it until they died and it became a reality. All these idiots had to do was real the Word of God.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23662827.post-5505110235218313652012-02-13T08:34:39.882+00:002012-02-13T08:34:39.882+00:00I saw that Peter. Ironic eh? I trust there was a m...I saw that Peter. Ironic eh? I trust there was a member of the NSS on the door getting all those entering to sign that they agreed to being forced to share a room with people who would be praying in public.Gregghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10323165429887622931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23662827.post-69128331492142293262012-02-13T08:12:49.432+00:002012-02-13T08:12:49.432+00:00Just seen a rapper saying a prayer for Whitney Hou...Just seen a rapper saying a prayer for Whitney Houston at the Grammys.<br />I'm sure the NSS will now condemn the Grammys and demand compensation for all those offended atheists in the audience.Peter Metcalfenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23662827.post-4969757258246173432012-02-12T23:17:55.011+00:002012-02-12T23:17:55.011+00:00I agree Daz, a bit of commonsense. Don't ban, ...I agree Daz, a bit of commonsense. Don't ban, negotiate. It would be nice to think that councillors had enough sense to come to an amicable agreement, rather than resorting to law. But we know differently don't we?<br /><br />I'm happy, as a left-footer, to live in a state where 'one of us' could never be on the throne, that's life. I don't care whether prayers are said before meetings or not. Why resort to law was my point.Gregghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10323165429887622931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23662827.post-12004098521684041092012-02-12T19:44:46.041+00:002012-02-12T19:44:46.041+00:00I suppose the problem occurs when you have a counc...I suppose the problem occurs when you have a council in certain towns made up of a particularly large ethnic minority contingent.<br /><br />Do we have a series of prayers as the first five items on the agenda?<br /><br />Or just apply a bit of common sense, allow anyone who wants to pray to whichever god they choose to do so, while atheists and non-believers grab a quick smoke or whatever (assuming that isn't also banned anytime soon).<br /><br />The notions of give and take, and sensible compromise, appear to have left our public space completely. Everything now seems to be about territory and taking up positions, with the PC tendency almost always firing the first shot.Daz Pearcehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07935407418226324575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23662827.post-29835446363490944382012-02-12T15:22:04.175+00:002012-02-12T15:22:04.175+00:00I see absolutely no reason why prayers should not ...I see absolutely no reason why prayers should not be allowed at council meetings in a country that is at least nominally christian. HOW DOES IT ACTUALLY HARM ANYBODY?Gregghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10323165429887622931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23662827.post-42519563460640177302012-02-12T14:47:14.921+00:002012-02-12T14:47:14.921+00:00Sorry Geg,
At the risk of prolonging this you are...Sorry Geg,<br /><br />At the risk of prolonging this you are again mistaken when you say '..The NSS was aimed at banning prayers.' They were not.<br /><br />Just read their web site:<br /><br />"The NSS is not seeking to deprive those who wish to pray the opportunity to do so; indeed, we fight to retain freedom of religion and belief. The judgement clearly states that religious freedoms are not hindered, as councillors who wish to do so are free to say prayers before council meetings".<br /><br />This all seems perfectly sensible and reasonable to me. As I said, it doesn't prevent those who want prayers before attending a council meeting to meet for two or three minutes in quiet session before the meeting.<br /><br />It also seems to me eminently sensible, for all the obvious reasons that I'm sure I don't need to expound, that religion or any faith should not form any part of any official business conducted in the public space.<br /><br />RegardsRichardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23662827.post-48958065982834217252012-02-12T11:33:29.770+00:002012-02-12T11:33:29.770+00:00I know that Richard, but but we all know what the ...I know that Richard, but but we all know what the reality is. The NSS action was aimed at banning prayers and that is effectively what they have achieved. Anything else is just playing with words in my humble opinion.<br /><br />I don't feel strongly about it, certainly there were no prayers when I was a councillor. I'm just sick and tired of people wanting things others do, that they don't believe in, banned.Gregghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10323165429887622931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23662827.post-30044791513970098802012-02-12T03:27:36.517+00:002012-02-12T03:27:36.517+00:00Sorry Greg,
Anonymous is quite correct.
Mr Justi...Sorry Greg,<br /><br />Anonymous is quite correct.<br /><br />Mr Justice Ouseley said: "A local authority has no power under section 111 of the Local Government Act 1972, or otherwise, to hold prayers as part of a formal local authority meeting, or to summon councillors to such a meeting at which prayers are on the agenda."<br /><br />The very narrow judgment was not about banning prayers per se, but about banning prayers when they form part of the published agenda of the council meeting. Council's are still free to pray whatever they want before or after council meetings. What they are not permitted to do is make them a formal part of council business.<br /><br />Which to me is eminently sensible and. Prayers have no place in official council meetings. Neither Christian, Muslim or any other faith prayers. That's the law. It's as simple as that.<br /><br />RegardsRichardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23662827.post-68447129539529243112012-02-11T22:06:36.542+00:002012-02-11T22:06:36.542+00:00Reminds me of school, where all the non-believers ...Reminds me of school, where all the non-believers could sit out assembly. Surely they could just leave the room while religious business was done, then walk back in to discuss keep left signs etc...<br /><br />I won't pretend not to find it a tad unusual that some bright spark decided to have a prayer at council meetings in the first place though. Very odd stuff...Daz Pearcehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07935407418226324575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23662827.post-88695135830712170742012-02-10T23:09:22.861+00:002012-02-10T23:09:22.861+00:00There's something very strange about the hatre...There's something very strange about the hatred that the NSS and associated atheists have for religion (and Christianity particularly).<br />Could it be they are afraid of something?Peter Metcalfenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23662827.post-69762069677688043852012-02-10T15:32:51.072+00:002012-02-10T15:32:51.072+00:00Arsehole indeed. And he obviously didn't give ...Arsehole indeed. And he obviously didn't give a toss about his local community to resign over a bloody prayer.Gregghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10323165429887622931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23662827.post-63516609629011747452012-02-10T15:10:35.949+00:002012-02-10T15:10:35.949+00:00bone is a complete arsehole i would have voted for...bone is a complete arsehole i would have voted for that cat who was in the monster raving loony partyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23662827.post-47822858730961282182012-02-10T13:21:56.366+00:002012-02-10T13:21:56.366+00:00Funny how you know better than just about every si...Funny how you know better than just about every single news organisation in the world. Are you actually God?Gregghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10323165429887622931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23662827.post-77307498620700834022012-02-10T11:10:17.137+00:002012-02-10T11:10:17.137+00:00Your report is wrong.
The judge ruled that no hu...Your report is wrong. <br /><br />The judge ruled that no human rights laws were broken. He ruled, instead, that the prayers during meetings were ultra vires.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com