Jean Charles de Menezes was an innocent man killed by the police.
Ian Tomlinson was an innocent man killed by the police.
Mark Duggan a 'gangsta' was lawfully killed by the police.
Whose death led to riots and accusations of racism?
Showing posts with label Riots. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Riots. Show all posts
Saturday, January 11, 2014
Friday, January 20, 2012
When Punishment Becomes Sheer Spite
I was as disgusted by the orgy of looting and wanton vandalism in the summer as anybody else, but this story concerns me, as did the demands for the eviction of looters from council houses at the time.
It seems that Wandsworth council tried to evict a family because the son had looted an electrical store, but they haven't been able to. So why should his mother be thrown out of her house? Surely it is the miscreant who should be punished not his innocent mother. Should the family of everybody sent to prison in the UK also be evicted?
To punish a whole family for the deeds of one member strikes me as highly vindictive and utterly immoral. But on another level where should this type of action end? Would my next door neighbour, who owns his home, have been immune from similar punishment had one of his sons looted a shop? If not, why not if the law applies to all? Surely his house should be taken off him and his family dumped on the street too.
Where do these evicted families go? Maybe if my neighbour had been evicted an unscrupulous private landlord could have bought his property and moved another evicted family into it, after all, they still need somewhere to live. Or are the evicted families expected, indeed only allowed to turn up at homeless shelters? Or maybe they are all expected to get together and live rough on the streets, maybe in tents outside cathedrals and in other urban areas.
This type of action is beyond punishment, it is sheer spite and I'm glad Wandsworth council failed.
It seems that Wandsworth council tried to evict a family because the son had looted an electrical store, but they haven't been able to. So why should his mother be thrown out of her house? Surely it is the miscreant who should be punished not his innocent mother. Should the family of everybody sent to prison in the UK also be evicted?
To punish a whole family for the deeds of one member strikes me as highly vindictive and utterly immoral. But on another level where should this type of action end? Would my next door neighbour, who owns his home, have been immune from similar punishment had one of his sons looted a shop? If not, why not if the law applies to all? Surely his house should be taken off him and his family dumped on the street too.
Where do these evicted families go? Maybe if my neighbour had been evicted an unscrupulous private landlord could have bought his property and moved another evicted family into it, after all, they still need somewhere to live. Or are the evicted families expected, indeed only allowed to turn up at homeless shelters? Or maybe they are all expected to get together and live rough on the streets, maybe in tents outside cathedrals and in other urban areas.
This type of action is beyond punishment, it is sheer spite and I'm glad Wandsworth council failed.
Tuesday, August 16, 2011
A Nation In Denial
I still find it hard to believe the fact that society is in such a mess is a huge surprise to David Cameron. Perhaps it shows just how out of touch our politicians are. And that is not a dig at Cameron's family background, it's a dig at politicians in general.
In addition to out of touch politicians we have policemen who seem to be living on another planet. I've even heard one spouting tosh this morning about us being able to teach the Americans a thing or two about dealing with gangs. Oh, really! The best we could expect from our senior policemen is to sit American cops down in a lecture room and lecture them in the latest sociological studies. While outside a riot takes place and shops are being looted.
The cry of single parents claiming that single parenthood has nothing to do with the current mess is also deafening. I know there are very real reasons for some single parenthood and that many of those single parents do an exceptional job of bringing up their kids. But there are thousands of single women who have had kids, for a variety of reasons, who are unfit to babysit let alone rear children. And yes, there are far too many women with numerous kids, from numerous fathers whose kids are running around ill educated and ill disciplined.
Then there is denial about the education system. Anybody who is involved in staff recruitment can see the drop in educational standards from the quality of written applications. Then you have students with 4A* A Levels which suggests that the difference between the best and the worst in educational terms is a wider gulf than that between the rich and the poor. Or maybe the A*s are actually worthless. The truth is that standards have dropped, teachers gave up the reponsibility to discipline kids decades ago and now, as many teachers openly admit, there is anarchy in far too many classrooms.
Then there is the denial that culture has played any part in fracturing society. It obviously has. We are obsessed with respecting diversity which has produced an us and them society rather than a cohesive society. No longer are we a British society, we are a society that has Afro-Caribbeans, White Irish, White British, Africans, Asians and so on. Just take a look at your average ethnic monitoring form next time you apply for a job. They categorised people like that in South Africa, and called it apartheid.
Then respecting other cultures has reached the level where we are scared of damning anything that is culturally repulsive for fear of being branded racist, a bit like David Starkie has been. There is obviously a gangsta subculture among a minority of black and white kids that is obviously derived from gang culture imported from Jamaica. Black people know that, the majority of whom are decent people and abhor that subculture just as the rest of the population do. But if anybody else dares to point this out they are branded evil it seems.
Until political correctness is wiped away and these and other truths are confronted head on then we are on a never ending downward spiral. That's exactly what the architects of political correctness want. And the rest of the country is in denial.
In addition to out of touch politicians we have policemen who seem to be living on another planet. I've even heard one spouting tosh this morning about us being able to teach the Americans a thing or two about dealing with gangs. Oh, really! The best we could expect from our senior policemen is to sit American cops down in a lecture room and lecture them in the latest sociological studies. While outside a riot takes place and shops are being looted.
The cry of single parents claiming that single parenthood has nothing to do with the current mess is also deafening. I know there are very real reasons for some single parenthood and that many of those single parents do an exceptional job of bringing up their kids. But there are thousands of single women who have had kids, for a variety of reasons, who are unfit to babysit let alone rear children. And yes, there are far too many women with numerous kids, from numerous fathers whose kids are running around ill educated and ill disciplined.
Then there is denial about the education system. Anybody who is involved in staff recruitment can see the drop in educational standards from the quality of written applications. Then you have students with 4A* A Levels which suggests that the difference between the best and the worst in educational terms is a wider gulf than that between the rich and the poor. Or maybe the A*s are actually worthless. The truth is that standards have dropped, teachers gave up the reponsibility to discipline kids decades ago and now, as many teachers openly admit, there is anarchy in far too many classrooms.
Then there is the denial that culture has played any part in fracturing society. It obviously has. We are obsessed with respecting diversity which has produced an us and them society rather than a cohesive society. No longer are we a British society, we are a society that has Afro-Caribbeans, White Irish, White British, Africans, Asians and so on. Just take a look at your average ethnic monitoring form next time you apply for a job. They categorised people like that in South Africa, and called it apartheid.
Then respecting other cultures has reached the level where we are scared of damning anything that is culturally repulsive for fear of being branded racist, a bit like David Starkie has been. There is obviously a gangsta subculture among a minority of black and white kids that is obviously derived from gang culture imported from Jamaica. Black people know that, the majority of whom are decent people and abhor that subculture just as the rest of the population do. But if anybody else dares to point this out they are branded evil it seems.
Until political correctness is wiped away and these and other truths are confronted head on then we are on a never ending downward spiral. That's exactly what the architects of political correctness want. And the rest of the country is in denial.
Monday, August 15, 2011
Shock: David Starkey Tells The Truth
I heard the interview with David Starkey on the BBC last week. One of the things he said about the causes of the riots was:
What Starkey said was not racist at all, he was being critical of a violent and destructive sub-culture that is rooted in the gangs of Jamaica but has been aped in some of our bigger cities.
But of course anybody who doesn't trundle out the politically correct excuses, such as dodgy bankers setting a bad example, or we're all greedy so you can't blame the poor for thieving, is vilified as a racist.
Starkey happens to be correct, but the solutions to the problems he has outlined are not to the taste of the politically correct, so they pretend that there are other causes, ones that suit their agenda.
‘What has happened is that the substantial section of the chavs that you wrote about have become black. The whites have become black. A particular sort of violent, destructive, nihilistic gangster culture has become the fashion.
Black and white, boy and girl operate in this language together. This language, which is wholly false, which is this Jamaican patois that has intruded in England.
This is why so many of us have this sense of literally a foreign country'The reference to the book was aimed at politically correct socialist writer Owen Jones who is obsessed with the word 'chav' and finds it offensive. Jones was also in the studio.
What Starkey said was not racist at all, he was being critical of a violent and destructive sub-culture that is rooted in the gangs of Jamaica but has been aped in some of our bigger cities.
But of course anybody who doesn't trundle out the politically correct excuses, such as dodgy bankers setting a bad example, or we're all greedy so you can't blame the poor for thieving, is vilified as a racist.
Starkey happens to be correct, but the solutions to the problems he has outlined are not to the taste of the politically correct, so they pretend that there are other causes, ones that suit their agenda.
Thursday, August 11, 2011
UK Riots: The Liberal Left Are To Blame
In a five minute interview Neal Lawson, chairman of Compass, proved just why political correctness and the liberal left are responsible for the mess we are in. At the start of the interview he claimed that most of the looters weren't on benefits so stopping benefits for those convicted wouldn't work, by the end he was telling us that they looted because they have no jobs and no prospects. The liberal left are currently looking at a problem and desperately twisting their pathetic theories to fit the scenario.
He also tried to blame the bankers and corrupt MPs stating that the scum saw them thieving and thought they might as well go and nick a pair of trainers. If only most of the looters had enough intelligence to make a connection like that. Apologists like Lawson, Wadsworh and Jasper have merely put words into the mouths of a few of the scum so they can parrot sociological claptrap when they get nicked in an effort to look like protesters rather than the thieving scum they are.
Ther real cause of the riots, as I posted yesterday, is political correctness. The welfare state has bred generations of people who think they have rights but no responsibilites. They've been encouraged by the liberal left to expect to be given what they haven't earned. They've been encouraged by the liberal left to look at the wealthy and hate them for having what they will never have, rather than admiring them and trying to achieve themselves.
Successive governments since 1945 have destroyed the education system in the interests of equality. You only have to listen to one of the semi-literate yobs being interviewed to see what an appalling mess the British education sytem is in. They complain that they won't get the opportunity to go on to higher education? Probably because they didn't attend school and do any work in the first place, not because the world is against them.
Our glorious welfare state has created generations of people who think they should have what they want by right, regardless of whether they've worked for it or not. And the scum, like Neal Lawson and his buddy at Compass Polly Toynbee, are as guilty as the scum with the fake gangsta accents who have brought shame on our country over the last few days.
He also tried to blame the bankers and corrupt MPs stating that the scum saw them thieving and thought they might as well go and nick a pair of trainers. If only most of the looters had enough intelligence to make a connection like that. Apologists like Lawson, Wadsworh and Jasper have merely put words into the mouths of a few of the scum so they can parrot sociological claptrap when they get nicked in an effort to look like protesters rather than the thieving scum they are.
Ther real cause of the riots, as I posted yesterday, is political correctness. The welfare state has bred generations of people who think they have rights but no responsibilites. They've been encouraged by the liberal left to expect to be given what they haven't earned. They've been encouraged by the liberal left to look at the wealthy and hate them for having what they will never have, rather than admiring them and trying to achieve themselves.
Successive governments since 1945 have destroyed the education system in the interests of equality. You only have to listen to one of the semi-literate yobs being interviewed to see what an appalling mess the British education sytem is in. They complain that they won't get the opportunity to go on to higher education? Probably because they didn't attend school and do any work in the first place, not because the world is against them.
Our glorious welfare state has created generations of people who think they should have what they want by right, regardless of whether they've worked for it or not. And the scum, like Neal Lawson and his buddy at Compass Polly Toynbee, are as guilty as the scum with the fake gangsta accents who have brought shame on our country over the last few days.
Wednesday, August 10, 2011
This Is Lawlessness Not Riots. Thank You Political Correctness!
What we are witnessing this week is kids wantonly looting and thieving because it gets them something for nothing, or it gives them a thrill. Things are then made worse when scum such as Lee Jasper and Marc Wadsworth jump on the bandwagon to push their warped political agendas and stoke up the looters by blaming racism and unemployment. Those two should have been arrested days ago for incitement.
Of course the politically correct idiots in our 'police service' such as Steve Kavanagh haven't helped. Here is Kavanagh being savaged on morning TV by commentator Jon Gaunt. When we have thousands of feral youth scum burning businesses, homes and looting shops we don't want to hear a copper talking like a sandal wearing bearded sociology lecture from Nelson Mandela Polytechnic. We want action and drastic action. If scum are on the rampage they are obviously not consenting to softly softly policing so stop talking crap and start cracking heads! Let's cleanse the police forces of the sociology graduates, the bland slogans and straplines and get back to real policing.
Our politicians are talking crap too, nothing new there. Miliband has been on TV this morning claiming that the causes of the 'rioting' are complex and many. No they are not. It's down to greed and a lack of discipline brought about by political correctness and multiculturalism, or rather the failure of multiculturalism. Then the media have continually repeated this, and the BBC coverage has seemed to encourage it at times. This has led to the little vermin parroting back the cod sociological 'reasons' to the camera. How can they blame lack of opportunites for higher education and worthwhile careers when they are only 12?
There are swathes of our inner cities, and bigger towns, that have such a high level of dysfunctional families that they are virtually lawless. The breakdown of morality, brought about by political correctness, has produced an underclass of black and white kids who have grown up with no fathers and no discipline. They no longer have any chance of having that changed at school because the politically correct masters in education gave up responsibility for discipline years ago. Now the teaching profession cries about lawlessness in the classroom. Well it was your colleagues who brought that about because they didn't have the moral fibre, thanks to political correctness, to discipline the kids any longer.
It is interesting that most of the kids who have strung something resembling a sentence together on TV news have that fake West Indian gangsta accent. That subculture has been allowed to thrive because political correctness forbids the condemnation of any form of culture be it good or bad. That is what led to the lad who was shot in London, that provoked the first disturbances, to deal in drugs and carry a gun. Then weak, ill disciplined little misfits all over the company have been involved in copycat acts of savagery.
If a society is not cohesive then it will eventually break down. Mutlticulturalism is the politically correct version of apartheid. It has broken our society into factions that are now facing up to each other, initially looters against the police, now vigilantes, or the decent people, against the looters. Multiculturalism inevitably pits us against each other.
When I grew up in the '70s we were all English if we were born here, including kids with Irish parents or whatever nationality, and in a Catholic school in inner city Manchester there were many. Now it seems that people with parents, grandparents or even great grandparents from elsewhere perversely claim that heritage as their identifying culture. This is partly because anybody claiming pride in their Englishness gets accused of fascism or racism, whereas it's cool to be African, Caribbean, Irish or virtually anything else. While we should all be aware and proud of our backgrounds and heritage this is not a healthy development.
Sadly, if Nick Griffin's boasts on Twitter are true, the BNP are being flooded with membership enquiries. That's another reason why the politicians and commentators must start being honest about this outbreak of lawlessness. It is not about race, it is caused by multiculturalism and it's even uglier twin, political correctness.
See also Rosie's Forum.
Monday, August 08, 2011
Riots, Then And Now
I remember the riots in the eighties in Brixton, Liverpool, Manchester and elsewhere and most of us instinctively sided with the police. The problem today is that peoples' confidence in authority, the police especially, is so low that we can't condemn the rioters quite so unequivocally as we did thirty years ago.
I don't include the student riots in this either. They were just a bunch of spoilt brats who needed a good hiding.
Saturday, March 26, 2011
The Caring Protesters Hit London, 26 March 2011
Wonder who or what the police in this picture were protecting?
No prizes for the correct answer.
Friday, December 10, 2010
Student Riots
We've handed sovereignty to Brussels at a frightening rate.Where were the violent protests then? We went to war against Iraq and Afghanistan. Where were the violent protests then?
Education has to be paid for, the question at the heart of these recent demonstrations is: "Who pays for education?". Should it be the taxpayer earning minimum wage? Or the student who benefits from the education system by getting a better paid job? Bearing in mind the repayments will only begin when the graduate starts earning over £21,000, and then at a favourable interest rate.
What has annoyed me these last couple of days is the idiot socialists who have responded in their usual simplistic manner. A Scouser on a radio phone-in today, had to be a Scouser, blamed the police fairly and squarely for the violence. When told that the media coverage suggested otherwise he came out with the usual conspiracy theory about media bias.
Then there was a Scotsman on the same show, Scotland where the tution fees voted on yesterday don't apply, singing the praises of the mob for damaging buildings. When asked how he would feel if protesters attacked his home he didn't have an answer.
There was the usual bull about education being free. How can education ever be free? Would lecturers do the job on a voluntary basis? Would builders build the universities for free? Would companies donate the teaching materials? It's obviously a stupid argument and shows how our education system has failed so many people. Education, healthcare and all the other services currently provided by the government cost money. We, the taxpayers pay. Or the government borrows money and eventually drops us in the brown stuff, a bit like now!
The voice of reason was a woman from Brighton who explained that the violent demonstrators had removed the right of her daughters to demonstrate because they were now scared to get involved after witnessing the violence of the demonstartors on a previous demo.
Another valid point is the total cost of the violent demonstrations. Who pays for that? Yes, you and me from our taxes. So they want us to pay for their eduation and to pay for their juvenile, if very violent temper tantrums on the streets of London and elsewhere. Well I've had enough of being taxed 'til the pips squeak so that other people can indulge themselves at my expense.
Let's truly open higher education up to the free market and see how long media studies courses, golf course management courses, retail management courses and the like survive. In the meantime the lazy scroungers rioting in London should get back to their studies and work hard, because many of them will probably end up working in some highly paid jobs in the very buildings they've been smashing on their totally selfish and self-indulgent wrecking spree.
And just in case you were wondering yes, I have been on plenty of demonstraions ranging from a few hundred to hundreds of thousands. But we were extremely well behaved. Well, mostly!
Tuesday, July 13, 2010
Trouble in Belfast
It's not been a good few days for those fond of orange, what with Holland losing the final and Orangemen getting attacked as they marched in Belfast.
The last time I was in Nothern Ireland, about six years ago, there was widespread cynicism verging on ridicule about the officially stated arms decomissioning. Real people, not idiot politicians like Blair, knew that the peace process would only last so long.
Let's face it, if you put murdering bastards like McGuiness and Adams in positions of power eventually they will grab for more power until they have complete power. In the last twenty years they have been proved absolutely right in their belief that the bomb and the bullet can get them what they want.
No wonder the pair look so smug when you see them on TV. OK the trouble at the moment is nowhere near previous levels, but let's see how long it takes.
Wednesday, March 04, 2009
It's Kicking Off-Part III
I've done a couple of posts in recent weeks about the possibility of riots as things in the UK get worse, and there seems to be an increasing number of articles elsewhere also predicting civil disorder. The latest, today, is in the Daily Express. Inevitably class warriors, above is the front cover of Class War, will be preparing already.
With such an authoritarian government rumours of contingency plans involving mobilising the military should not be dismissed.
The news clip below is from June 2008 and predicts 30 years of riots, and that was before most of us knew quite how bad things were going to get.
Monday, February 23, 2009
It's Kicking Off-Part II
I blogged about riots over the weekend, as the only way that the political establishment may be forced to actually listen. It seems that senior police officers are now getting twitchy about the summer. Read it here.
Let's hope we have a real hot, very long heatwave.
Let's hope we have a real hot, very long heatwave.
Sunday, February 22, 2009
It's Kicking Off!
Let's just kick off, the sooner the better.
Bring it on! Riots in the streets and bloodshed. Let's follow the Irish example but take it further. Let's shaft the political class, properly!
Thursday, October 02, 2008
More On Rubbish Riots In Naples
The following comment arrived today on my post Rubbish Riots In Naples. I felt it warranted another airing so I'm posting it below too.
Just so you all know, the rubbish crysis is still going on.
Berlusconi on the 18th of July has publicly claimed that he solved the problem.
That is not true.
The rubbish has been removed from the center of the city, but in the peripheral areas and in the provinces, the problem is still the same.
Journalists are being intimidated and warned to not spread news on the rubbish still in the streets, and people who try to protest are intimidated as well.
Just check the following youtube videos:
In the first one, some people are being intimidated by the police to avoid their protest reaching the palace where Berlusconi is announcing that the "rubbish emergency" has been solved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTgrBV6ExEQ
Berlusconi declared the emergency solved in the 18th of July 2008.
You can see with your eyes what is happening
21 July (13km from Naples)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Sa6mTbXq4
8 August, says the date on the newspaper
(Firefighters are blocked by the trash and there's rubbish burning)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY0V5-Fxj2M
8 September, just a couple of Kilometers from the city port.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYlAw88E3rA
People that make this videos public are risking.
They have organized crime against them. The organized crime profited from the emergency, and too much media attention was ruining their businessess. Bringing back the attention of the media and the eyes of the world upon the problem is the only way to fight them effectively.
From Italy: please, don't forget this.
Just so you all know, the rubbish crysis is still going on.
Berlusconi on the 18th of July has publicly claimed that he solved the problem.
That is not true.
The rubbish has been removed from the center of the city, but in the peripheral areas and in the provinces, the problem is still the same.
Journalists are being intimidated and warned to not spread news on the rubbish still in the streets, and people who try to protest are intimidated as well.
Just check the following youtube videos:
In the first one, some people are being intimidated by the police to avoid their protest reaching the palace where Berlusconi is announcing that the "rubbish emergency" has been solved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTgrBV6ExEQ
Berlusconi declared the emergency solved in the 18th of July 2008.
You can see with your eyes what is happening
21 July (13km from Naples)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Sa6mTbXq4
8 August, says the date on the newspaper
(Firefighters are blocked by the trash and there's rubbish burning)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY0V5-Fxj2M
8 September, just a couple of Kilometers from the city port.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYlAw88E3rA
People that make this videos public are risking.
They have organized crime against them. The organized crime profited from the emergency, and too much media attention was ruining their businessess. Bringing back the attention of the media and the eyes of the world upon the problem is the only way to fight them effectively.
From Italy: please, don't forget this.
Monday, September 29, 2008
Rubbish Riots In Naples
I suppose I should now say: "actually I thought they were great myself", but I won't.
Here's a link to a BBC video of a riot in Naples. Whereas we whine and write to the local newspaper about rubbish, in Naples they have a bloody good riot. In days gone by we used to be good at rioting, seems nobody can be mitherd any more in the UK. Shame that, it's such good fun.
Here's a link to a BBC video of a riot in Naples. Whereas we whine and write to the local newspaper about rubbish, in Naples they have a bloody good riot. In days gone by we used to be good at rioting, seems nobody can be mitherd any more in the UK. Shame that, it's such good fun.
Thursday, February 28, 2008
Direct Action
I think that Greenpeace and Plane Stupid are just that, plain stupid. Most environmentalists are barking mad egocentrics covering their utter self-absorption with 'love for the planet' and peeing off the rest of us in the process.
Having said that I do admire their tactics. As politicians ever increasingly ignore we mere mortals, the more direct action becomes our only course of action. We used to do riots really well in England. When did we go soft?
Having said that I do admire their tactics. As politicians ever increasingly ignore we mere mortals, the more direct action becomes our only course of action. We used to do riots really well in England. When did we go soft?
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